intelligence agency under cover overseas and i've worked for the defense intelligence agency as a lecturer at the joint counterintelligence academy where i developed sources and method for keeping our information secure in the most hostile dangerous environments around the world. when they say i don't know what i'm talking about, i would say it's somewhat misleading. >> kimberly, snowden has very high approval ratings in america. his approval ratings are actually higher than president obama. >> really. >> i find him increasingly insufferable. pajama boy. if he were to man up as kerry says, what kind of legal jeopardy is he in. >> he's in jep dardly for sure. i like what secretary of state john kerry said. i think he was very forceful. i think he has the right idea. this is somebody not acting like a patriot, come back to the