>> yeah. it was a pretty intense battle with helio coming down to the checkered flag. as a driver when you're in a position to win the greatest race in the world, you put it all on the line. it was all instinct. i relied a lot on my experience, but i went for it. helio had a great battle and hats off to him. it was great, clean racing. it was typical verizon indy car racing. >> the fans love to see a close race like that. only in 1992 was there a closer race in the entire history of this. but also helio won it three different times. is there something when you're doing this thinking, that guy is a champ, i've never won this. maybe he has something over me? how do you overcome that mentally? >> absolutely. coming down to the wire there, i knew that i was battling a guy that really figured this place out. he knows how to win here. he's a champion and i knew it was going to be tough to hold him off. there was no master plan, though. i just knew that i need to do