you can't understand why poem don't like the bureau of land management with swat teams. >> two separate issues. >> look, the land management i think everybody says they yofer reacted. you wouldn't agree with that. >> i'm not sure i agree with that say you were in business for yourself as mr. bundy is. >> and you are in a controversy. okay? and then you have got armed guys surrounding seizing your cattle? all we are saying here is is this necessary i would say is it necessary because i pulled back. >> listen, if i were owing the government a million dollars and i stood in my apartment with a gun waiting for them to come, that would be a huge problem and i think the issue here is people are looking at the fact that armed vigilantes protecting this guy and if i'm the government i would be concerned about because if i had cattle grazing on