don't have a case that i can see to be honest with it. if you are going to use public land for profit, you have to pay for it. the bottom line, conservatives have to remember, if you want a ranch without any interference, you have to buy your own ranch. i think it's important to point out that this land does not belong to them and it's not a minor distinction. it's the essence of private property. sorry. >> a.b. >> it wasn't that he was denied grazing rights. he refused to pay the grazing fees, so he could have had his cattle grazing on federal land but he refused to pay up to a million dollars in grazing feeds. the blm could not have bungled this more by tasing his son. agents also came behind cliven