stepped down, obamacare's still controversial. and the american people overwhelmingly don't want it. >> well, you got a smile out of liz for that. i think she chuckled at your analogy. let's talk about sylvia burwell. she was confirmed 96-0 when she was nominated to that post. but it wasn't without some bumps. i want to play a little bit of an interchange between her and gop senator jeff sessions who is now raising concerns he thinks her nomination represents the president wants a political ally in this new post heading up hhs. and he's afraid she won't say no to the president if it's necessary. he says it's in light of context of the questioning about some budget issues. here's a little bit of that exchange. >> so you're proposing that we all -- so you can spend $56 billion more next year alone. >> what we are proposing -- >> yes or no, is that correct? >> we propose --