lashings. he pulled out a knife and he is in custody now. we will continue to bring you more. let's go to capital hill where there is an intense debate going on behind closed doors. lawmakers on the means and way committee decide whether they will pursue a criminal case against lois lerner. brand new hour starting now on a busy wednesday morning. i am martha maccallum. >> and i will bill. the lawmakers are debating the exact wording of a letter to eric holder requesting an investigation into the lois lerner and her relationship with the irs scandal. mike emanual is live. the case being made for doing this today is what?