and i chase rats. i was never told i was an informant with a number. so in my -- in my own mind, i was not an informant. i was cooperating with investigation. >> the smoking gun website outd the minister yesterday as an fbi informant. among the various crimes, murder, benarrow these wise guys ended up in the slammer because of this guy and the $64,000 question why did al sharpton because the community activist become the informant. if you believe the reverend, he did it for the community and the kids? >> i did what was right.