the report says -- it's been widely leaked -- >> it has been widely leaked. >> there are a lot of businesses widely leaked in this town. doesn't mean it's not true. the report says that information -- and i want to ask about the facts here. the report says that information about bin laden's career came from the detainee while he was being questioned by kurds in northern iraq long before he was taken to a cia prison and given enhanced interrogation. >> sure. and director panetta when asked by the congress to comment on did the interrogation program help with getting us to abbottabad said clearly that that information was part of the intelligence string that led to the killing of osama bin laden at abbottabad, and he went on to say we'll never know whether or not we may have gotten that information through another way. he did not deny that information from this program helped pinpoint bin laden. >> is it a fact that this