continues. we'll be watching it. thank you so much, phil. jon. jon: mainstream media have been patting the white house on the back this week for hitting obamacare enrollment goal while ignoring numbers of who really signed up. a report from one of obamacare's largest insurers, said as much as 20% of the enrollees have not paid their premiums meaning they're not covered. number of people receiving health care because of obamacare is well below what the administration says. why are the real numbers flying under the radar? judith miller, pull letssy prize winning reporter and fox news contributor. kirsten powers, columnist for "usa today" and fox news contributor. welcome to both of you. kirsten, do you agree with the premise, until people actually paid their premiums they're not covered? roughly one in five haven't paid yet. the numbers that the white house are crowing about are not necessarily real? >> yeah, i absolutely agree with that i can't think of any