and they're not needing to take every exercise as 150,000 troops and invading a country and then staying there for 15 years, and all the treasure and blood that this country sheds every time we do that. so it is looking at the future in the modern warfare that we're going to have to engage in. no one is talking -- i think the days of thinking about a ground war against the former soviet union, now russia, those days are over. that is not going to happen. it can happen, we have to prepare to be for that and i think that is what this budget does. >> kirsten and charles weigh in on this debate, less military? when we return. nd charles weigh on this d [announcer] a healthy dog is a playful dog. give him the calorie-smart nutrition of beneful healthy weight. with wholesome rice,real chicken,soy, and accents of vitamin ric veggies... plus a taste he loves. beneful healthy weight...from purina.