>> joe, you know the internet better than most. your thoughts on this? >> there is nobody in control of the internet, used to when we started out. but look every machine connected to it builds the network out in different ways. this is not ceding control out to anybody. ican is literally the phone book issuer of the internet. it issues the names and numbers. that's what -- it's the internet corporation for assigning names and numbers. that is all it is. it is like turning the phone book over to a private corporation. in this case it will be a multi-stakeholder -- corporate entity. >> but that stakeholder is somehow tied to russia and china. and brad blakeman pointed out. russia and china don't fully let their citizens enjoy the internet. isn't that an issue? >> well, if that is what the commerce department agrees to but it is not happening yet. it is based in los angeles, california, ican is.