take place, identi guess it's s. however, how do you implement it? they say they're student athletes, in many incidents they are athlete students, so this i think will cause tremendous reform in the ncaa. it only applies right now to private institutions, public institutions, the nlrb doesn't have jurisdiction over it, so it's only this case right here right now, but i think it will force change across the board. >> this is interesting because you use that term student athlete versus athlete student. and there are a lot of people who suggest that college athletes at least at the top tier, the bigtime football programs, are kind of a sham, that this is not amateur athletic in any sense of the term or should not be. what are your thoughts about that? >> well, it's just like anybody who goes to school. a lot of these athletes who go to school have dreams of playing in the nfl or the nba. it's a one in a million shot but that's where they are placing their hopes and dreams and that's where they're concentrating and spending their time. and it is a fallacy because the