than looking for this airplane. we should still look for it clearly. >> as far as the simulator goes throw, is there promise from your perspective that the deleted data can be retrieved? >> absolutely. remember oliver north deleted everything in the security council. we got it all back. they're very good at that. these people are outstanding. it takes a while, but they'll get it back. we can see maybe if he was planning way point changes in a flight plan or something. i don't know what's in there, but it's going to give us -- it potentially could give you the answer to the case. >> what's interesting, the malaysian authorities are saying they believe that the plane was deliberately turned back. terrorism of course can't be ruledith the release of the final 5 4 minutes of the flight deck, the malaysian government is saying they found nothing suspicious in those conversations. what do you make of that? >> i would like to listen to it