things get very, very bad down there, there are a lot of big storms, in just checking, we have a wave chart, we can look at the size of the waves over the next ten days. there doesn't seem to be anything too outstanding coming at the general area -- >> how high? >> eight to 12 foot waves at the worst and most of them between four and eight feet. but further south you get 30-40 foot swells off the coast of northern antarctica, so right now it is not nearly as bad as it can be. but keep in mind this has been out there for ten or 12 days who knows where it is winding up? >> eight to ten is pretty big, though. i've spent enough time out on the ocean. >> it is, but for that area you're looking relative to normal, let's say, that is what happens down there at that far south of latitude.