and then priority one is a search for any survivors. [ inaudible ] to see if it's possible that 11, 12 days later, somebody might have been able to survive this. it's a long shot, but it's priority one. again, let's get to kathleen banks, who is a pilot, an aviation expert and a fox news contributor. kathleen, your thoughts on what we have heard from the aussies and what it may mean in the big picture? >> well, i'd like to say i'm cautiously optimistic, but really what i'm hoping is that this is not a premature revelation. because the families involv involved -- -- relatively indistinct imagery. maybe they're not playing their whole hand.