i think that's a big issue with a lot of things happening in the medical industry. it's not profitable. they don't want to talk about it. that's what this show is based on. all those things not profitable but actually work. >> i will admit my bias as a homeopath. it's different. i was raised as a kid. my med v medical uncle doctor said don't become a doctor, it's a disaster. what it has become many medical doctors are leaving the profession because they can't do what they went in for t. good ones say i have to leave now. we are looking back to a time when a doctor and patient could b establish a patient. it could be a chiropractor, a natureopath and there is a real market on real he'll healing. >> a lot of the homeopathic is not covered by insurance. here i was paying all this insurance and going to all these doctors not covered by the insurance at all. >> look at what the insurance has done, it's elevated the prices, it's not addressing an acute unexpected catastrophe, now it's done for everything.