been here since before abraham lincoln's first inauguration, 1858. these horses are well cared for. the mayor wants to replace them with electric calls. that's exactly what new york needs, more cars. this experiment has been tried with electric calls in san francisco, failed, abysmaabysma. >> and all those people are going to lose jobs. i've been out to your ranch, and i watch your son wyatt. he's an amazing rider, roper and literally fantastic cowboy. >> rodeo athlete. >> these horses are treated like gold here. what is the point of firing people and getting rid of these jobs? >> i think de blasio's totally wrong. i'm for the horses also staying here and what liam knneeson jus