europe and in a luxury hotel arrested some years after the murder, the alleged murder of her ex-husband. now, there has been at love time the prosecution spent on describing that she is a money-strapped, money in-, money-grubbing woman. have they been successful she hated her ex-husband or so angry or so wanted the money she was willing to kill him? >> no, and i agree with phil. that is all they have. all that they have is motive. even the motive is a stretch. $2 million life insurance policy is a stretch. that is why they're so hard trying to make the jury dislike her. they're only calling 33 witnesses while the defense is calling 103. that is unusual. it shows where the defense is trying to instill reasonable doubt with every witness. jenna: phil, talk to us about that. that must be a strategy as well as heather is bringing up. more than 100 witnesses? >> of course they will paint her as wonderful caring mother, by the way the defense is that