>> they need td. . >> number one. number two, let's be honest. that chair was occupied by jack nicholson. he was there. he just went out to have sex with a waitress. and that's when they snapped the picture. be honest. be fair. be balanced. >> no, you and kimmel are buddies, right? >> yeah. >> never met him before. very nice guy. how did you guys meet? how did that -- >> i was a boxing trainer. he was doing morning radio out here. >> you were a boxing trainer? >> yes. i was working as a boxing -- see my knuckle which is a disaster? >> you were teaching people how to hit other people? >> yeah. you could punch a teaching othe people how to hit other people? >> yeah, you could punch a wall -- >> and you met him covering a story. >> he was doing a morning radio stunt. jimmy the sports guy was going to box, he needed a trainer. i taught him how to box. we became love -- friends and it has been a love affair ever