even if you accept everything they benefit from increasing minimum wage, democrats say benefit from, the cbo said a million people potentially not able to get a job because the labor force then shrinks. the minimum wage is not a life-style wage. it's a starting point. what happens you will get reduction in the jobs created at a minimum wage that is 40% more under this plan than it is today >> 500 by the way. now a million. >> it was average 500,000. >> more people benefit. martha: cbo figures they pour in the numbers they're given, right? they sort them out. they figure out what the impact is going to be. in some cases they poured in the numbers and things were more expensive they thought for example, like overall health care package. i look at it from, if you're a small businessman in this country or small businesswoman, right? you've got this sort of double-whammy, right? you have the possibility of increased health coverage costs for your employees, if you have over 50 employees. then you've also got the