not, we can debate it. but does that, to some extent, give americans an insight into the mentality of this president. you know, i am the law, king george iii revisited? >> well, remember where the president comes from politically. he comes out of the daily political machine in chicago. which was all about the arbitrary use of power and the changing of rules from one day to the next and the fact that businesses had to seek favors. the president comes out of a political culture which isn't about consensus and isn't about compromise about my way or the highway. >> all right, john, great to see you. thanks so much for being with us on this sunday. that's it for us "a healthy you" with carol alt is next. relieves more symptoms than any other behind the counter liquid gel. oh what a relief it is.