who went to work 9 to 5. and very involved dads otherwise. but now we are spending a lot more time with our kids than our father did. we had no training for this. >> you were kind of on the cutting edge with actors with nontraditional jobs. you have always had nontraditional work hours. and now more american men have your hours. >> feast or famine especially when you freelance, long stretches of time. found we were not alone. sort of the idea. jason and i were talking about it how one of the first days of like kindergarten dropping off the kids, got go. see two other dads at starbucks i'm not working either. laid off between jobs. you find that, you know, we found that we weren't alone. at the playground we felt very alone. we were usually the only men there. >> fan fest itself in this great show. here another clip from the show. >> i'm not going to chase