and not only do we have to worry about the prices going up, we have to worry about long-term cost because it will cost a lot of money to get the infrastructure in place so next winter when we have the situation develop we don't runt into these spot shortages. we also have to worry about the transportation on the roads. when you have icy roads, you can't move eating oil trucks, you can't move propane trucks and that's going to impact prices. now, one of the things we saw today was the heating oil market. the heating oil market actually performed fairly well and that's because the market really was better supplied. why? because we're importing more replies from europe, importing europe heating oil, importing propane, and i it's normally the other way around. so this spirit is -- winter is challenging everything we believed about energy. and when you talk about the coldest january we have probably had since 2001, we'll see this