>> first why was the work requirement taken out of the stimulus bill who was the thinking behind that. >> i'm not sure there was a whole lot of thinking behind it. it ran into political trouble on the other side of the i'll. it -- aisle. what we're trying to do with this bill and other measures like it, greta, is not make our welfare system smaller but more effective and efficient so it doesn't have to be so big. >> is the thinking behind it get people in some sort of work program they will maintain an economic status and maybe work themselves out, i take it? >> precisely. that's the idea. what we want here is to help americans get out of poverty. we have federal policy right now that artificially keeps people in poverty. it creates a poverty trap. we want to make it easier for people to get out of poverty. >> if you can't get the work, i assume you can still get the food stamps or disabled under your program. say you are physically unable to work. can you still get food stamps without having to meet the work requirement? >> yes. this presupposes that you are able-body. that you are able bodied adult and that you have the ability to work. >> what about job available? >> well, if there is not a