anti-perspirant. that will stop you from sweating, the aluminum clogs the pores so what do you use? >> aeroroot powder. >> aeroroot? >> yes, that absorbs the moisture. >> can i ask you how you thought of making this product? >> yeah, i was just personally really frustrated with most of the deodorants on the market. basically how i got into this was, gosh, when my son was born, about four years ago. and i just really started looking at the chemicals in a lot of body care products. and then i had paid attention before, but not so much -- once you have a kid those things change. so i made the decision to do more research and try to make my own. i was making soaps, shampoos and lotions and things. >> and all chemical-free? >> uh-huh. >> do you still make the shampoos? >> i do a little. i mess around with some recipes sometimes, but the deodorant i am passionate about because i personally was not able to --