support it why haven't we seen that before. >> we haven't had a market in healthcare for decades. >> by whom. >> by the democratic party. >> respectfully, bill, if the people really wanted a different kind of plan other than say -- >> -- they do now. >> they do now. >> looks like just getting to see. >> healthcare dollars. >> they are just getting to see the tip of this disaster when the doctors start walking out, and not taking it, then j can't go back to the status quo, bill, that's the plan. >> explain to the american people. >> i predict this will be repealed. last word, sabryna,. >> explain to the american people what a system would look like where your healthcare dollars are not tied to your place of employment where you own and control those healthcare dollars where you can compete to buy in an individual marketplace the way that businesses can to get the same incentives. >> can't cherry pick the healthiest people. what about the poorest of the poor and sickest of the sick. you don't make a lot of money off those folks. >> we all want to help those people. >> you do it as i said in a disciplined way. very interesting discussion. thank you very much. next on the rundown, herald is right and i am wrong on