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it also had cybersecurity protection, and, of course, for the 100 senators, they have different strategies on how to deal with cybersecurity, and that's what stopped the bill. and it was unfortunate, to say the very least. >> well, unfortunate and -- >> i was a co-sponsor of that bill. >> congressman, what can people do to get their legislators involved in this? >> well, from my perspective, if they could call their own members of congress and ask them to support both the shield act and cipa, the critical infrastructure protection act, that would help me greatly. just by word of encouragement, judge, i just came from london. i chair the world summit on electroinfrastructure security, and a lot of people met with lloyd's of london in london, no less, and it encouraged me because i think the insurance companies are understanding the danger here, and i think they're going to supply both the economic incentive and disincentive if necessary to get people to look at it as they should. >> all right. congressman franks, we'll have

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