that's when the economic growth and wages took off. >> i hear what you are saying but there is the housing bubble and the internet bubbling percolating at that time. here is the thing, the perspective you won't hear about in the "state of the union" coming tuesday night. that is why is this economy creating mix jobs, the low-paying job? that is the problem with income and story behind income and equality that president will hammer tuesday night. low paying jobs replacing high-paying jobs in this economy. that is the structure problem. >> go back to the clinton era reforms. not just bill clinton. it was the era. brought there by republicans who proposed this in the first place. there were specific requirements, work requirements. there were time limits put on welfare. aren't those a good thing? didn't it change welfare and aren't we going against it now? >> it did change healthcare.