his legal team has asked for a delay in what is to be the arraignment and bond hearing this friday in richmond, where the district federal court is. the justice department said they wouldn't object to that because mr. mcconnell's attorneys are out of town. it hasn't been delayed formally. but it's possible that the former governor of virginia and his wife will walk into court to be formally indicted and arraigned. >> part of the case is the feds are alleging that the mcdonnells have a lot of credit card debt and they had -- do you know anything about that? >> essentially what they're arguing is that this was on the up and up. why did so much of the money, these gifts go through family members and not be documented in the regular way that these things would be disclosed in the record. he's the state's former attorney general, he knows the laws well,