obama ran his campaign in 2008 as sort of the adult in the room, the guy that would not make political decisions when it came to our, our military and fighting wars, and also he was very harshly critical of the previous administration for not listening to his commanders or at least accusing president bush of not listening to his commanders and accusing bush of not listening to those around him. these accusations coming now against president obama, the very same ones, that is pretty scary and suggest that is president obama has managed to get himself extremely isolated, especially when it comes to this, the decision surrounding afghanistan and iraq. jon: the interesting thing too, shira, is that generally bob gates has not been known as a particularly political figure in washington. that is part of the reason that president obama kept him on in a democratic administration after he had served under bush 43 in a