fowler. john, i've interviewed you many times, you've been inspiring and have convinced me america has more fossil fuel resources, natural gas, shell oil, than the middle east combined? tell me if i'm wrong? >> well, we have more than we'll ever need, sean. that is the key point. you can never believe reserves of other countries. let's just say we'll have more than we ever need. because if you talk about the first part of the energy independence plan, which is transportation fuel independen independence, you're going to talk about putting a $500 stimulus into the economy over the next 20-30 years to make sure we have the fuel we need. that gets us to 10 million barrels per day of oil converting 5 million barrels equivalent of natural gas to