certification. in the argument, in the brief, the government filed, here is what it said. with the stroke of their own pen, applicants can secure for themselves the relief they seek from this court. mr. rienzi, why isn't that good enough? >> because it is not true, chris. the form the government wants the sisters to sign is an authorization form that authorizes and directs others to provide the drugs. what the government said in court is that we haven't quite figured out a way to make that form work today but we are still working on way to make that form work. and the way the rules are set up, that form will authorize and direct others to pay for those drugs. the sisters can't be part of it. if the form doesn't matter, the government shouldn't be making the sisters sign it. >> miss hogue, mine, that's the point that -- mr. renzy making in court. if you look at the certification, it is a contract that informs the insurer of its obligation too go ahead after the sisters opt out to provide contracepti contraception.