>> this one here? >> this is saccharin, sweet and low is saccharin. >> give us alternatives we could reach for instead of this on the table. >> actually in the restaurant, if you really need a sweetener, the best alternative is sugar and honey. both would be better. >> you guys did you -- >> well, there are natural sweeteners down for centuries like stevia, coming in a powder -- >> truvi -- truvia? >> that is -- any time you process the plants, you run problems. another one people haven't heard of is monk fruit, typically from madagascar, in africa. and it has really no side effects, can help, and also put a low sugar fruit like lemons or limes to sweeten it up for you