or is that a happy face? >> democrats decided to argue that the only problems with obamacare were the web site problems. they conceded that the web site was a mess. but that once that gets fixed, obamacare is fine. what republicans have said is that there are structural aspects of obamacare that are going to mean continued, higher premiums, higher deductibles, narrower doctor choice, narrower prescription drug choices, all of this stuff for patients as we go forward. i think what you are going to see in 2014 is which side has the stronger argument. >> steve, this healthcare was passed in 2010. did they get started right away on othe web sight or did they drag their feet? i mean, what in the world, how did they get to this mess? >> well, i mean, you go and go back and review the testimony, they claim that they were starting on the web site, that they were working on these problems from the very beginning, but it also intensified, that work intensified over the past several months. clearly they didn't do enough. clearly they didn't have enough back stops. clearly they didn't do the