>> angela, do you agree? >> as richard stated her whole resume, we have a lot of things to run against hillary on. not only her policy as a senator, but also what she did as secretary of state. but also what her husband did during the clinton years. do we want four more years of bill clinton being first spouse? i do believe she will run. remember that barbara walters interview? she's going to run -- >> what about health care, angela, you didn't mention that but, you know, the first lady at the time, hillary clinton, had some ideas about health care. it was somewhat unique for a first lady to take such a strong position on such an important issue. now, she will have to explain away the obama care debacle. >> that's what she's trying to do. she's doing this political two-step jamie where she is trying to distance herself from the president's unpopular