oversimplifying. >> i am trying to oversimplify. >> pier pressure thing out there. when you get into the business. everyone is one way. you have to go that way. >> everybody can relate to growing up at the kitchen table and hearing your parents talk. only one view. >> you did work for dukakis. >> did i. >> when you were 24. >> right. >> dukakis was okay guy but he was a very liberal guy and he got his butt kicked as you know. was that because you were working for him by the way. >> can i pick him. but i also worked for schwarzenegger and he won. >> there you go. what happened to him. >> he took on the entrenched party system in california and got his butt kicked he got terminated by them. they killed him. >>like, i don't think arnold knew what he was getting into. he really don't. >> i disagree. i never met a person who was less good at bringing or better at bringing people than arnold. amazing at it. >> he can bring it together. but he left office with 25% approval rating. it was just you guys that