intelligence james clapper. senator paul saying clapper is a bigger danger to the u.s. than nsa leaker edward snowden. why does he say that? senator paul joins us. before i -- nice to see you, sir. before i get to the question of snowden vs. clapper, i'm curious. you call for his resignation. why do you call for him to be fired? >> well, either or and/or prosecution, to tell you the truth. i think that it's a bit hypocritical for those who want blood and they want to prosecute snowden for breaking the law, which he did. but they don't want to do anything to the director of intelligence for breaking the law. it's like we are going to pick and choose which laws can be broken and which ones can't. i think particularly when you are a high ranking official in government, you are setting an example for the rest of government. it's made it frankly hard for us to believe when the intelligence community comes and says oh, we need this surveillance technique because we caught all these terrorists and you are like well, let's look at them one by one we don't believe you when you tell us that. >> you say based on his march 12th testimony when you say the nsa dose not