an extension would do more harm than good. >> i do support unemployment benefits for the 26 weeks they're paid for. if you extend it beyond that you do a disservice to these workers. when you allow people to be on unemployment insurance for 99 weeks, you're causing them to become part of this perpetual unemployed group in our economy, and it really, while it seems good, it actually custodies service to the people you're trying to help. i don't doubt the president's motives but black unemployment in america is double white unemployment and it hasn't budged under this president. >> but senator -- >> a lot of african-americans voted for him. i don't think it worked or his policies. heather: let's talk about it, katy pavlich fox news contributor and townhall.com and steve sigman, global democratic strategist. thanks for joining us. catty, you heard rand paul says it does a disservice to people that are part of this long-term