would stop because there are a subset of physicians who really don't care to practice and to be dictated by a set of people who don't know what it's like. >> do you share that opinion, dr. smith? >> yeah, it's absolutely true. i don't deal with medicare either. i'd rather tell the patient come on in, let's get you taken care of. leave that silly card that you have that says -- >> if both of you guys are right, and more doctors say you know what? i'm not going to get involved with this. i got a decent practice on my own. i can make a living treating what i want to do, the way i want to do, then you're going to squeeze all of these 30 million people who are enrolled on obama care, if they can ever get the computer working, okay, into fewer and fewer doctors. and that is a recipe for chaos, it is not, dr. brooks? >> it is indeed. and plus, as you've said, there are fewer and fewer doctors that will be practicing.