better place to live in today. there's in question in my mind that there is a creator to the universe. >> joining me now, the last man to walk on the moon, gene. gene, i have to tell you, imso hoshed, so thrilled to have you here. as i said at the beginning, when i grew up, the astronauts were the heroes for every kid my age. what are we losing, gene, by abandoning our space efforts? >> well, i think we're losing the vision and the commitment that john f. kennedy she the challenge she presented the mesh people with. we're looking at half a century of our excellence in space being