angry state, like this. i don't know, think that's driving a lot of. this. >> i think it's both. it's it whipping people up with the hateful rhetoric. and telling them if you have an opinion, that makes you a bad person. >> i don't know about that. >> no,. >> wait, wait. >> i think we have lost a certain decorum. certain empathy to stand in the shoes of the person we are screaming at. there is a lot of hateful screaming going on from both sides and i think it also makes us feel kind of helpless and hopeless. no one can come to any agreement. it's like if you are in a family and your parents are arguing all the time, and you can't come to them and say look, this isn't working out for me i need to get something done, sit down with me and help me fix things. they are screaming disfunction nally. >> what does that do to a human being when they hear it and they see it, it makes them depressed? it makes them. what do they do. >> makes them feel hopeless and kind of impotent. there is a phenomenon called learned helplessness,