we have the big employer, those over 50, the people who employ over 50 who have gotten the one-year delay, mandate on obama care. >> that has nothing to do with thanksgiving. >> now we find out today that the smaller employers, those under 50, will also get that delay. are they just going to turn around and say you know what? individual mandate, might as well delay that now, too. >> well, they should if they're going to delay it for large-size businesses and small businesses, they should. up until now, eric, if you're a small business, you haven't been able to even get on the exchange. so if you want the health care, you have to do it snail mail. you have to fill out a form and mail it to kentucky. i mean, it's like the 1950s. bob, i have to say, i mean, they can't even get this right. they're driving people to call and order health care tomorrow when the call center is closed? >> i understand that, but he went down a rabbit hole. eric went down a rabbit hole, and i want to point that out. >> a beckel hole. you try and bring everyone else down the beckel hole. >> we can't all fight. >> that's a little scary. let's stay out of the beckel hole.