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take, now the nurse's take. deborah, your thoughts on this. >> the nurses over the entire country have been concerned about this health insurance reform. and it's not obama care or the affordable care act that's limiting the choices. let's be clear, these are the insurance companies that were left in charge of health care and wrote health care reform. they're the ones limiting care and creating this bureaucracy to deny our patients care. >> okay. but with all due respect, today, what people really care about is care being denied. are their children not going to be able to get -- because the report is these major hospitals because of a law are not going -- they're not included. not in the network anymore. >> well, and that's because the insurance companies are the ones that are actually deciding whether they're going to offer their services on the health care -- >> and what you're saying -- >> they're not the ones -- >> the report said they're deciding not to because they

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