new york city. >> not among young black males. do these people, in your experience, know right from wrong? do they know right from wrong? >> i think they know right from wrong. they are angry. they are alienated and like other alienated youth they are acting out. >> so they don't mind, you know, if you punch somebody like that, you could kill them. you could literally kill they will. >> i don't pretend to know what's going on in the mind of a 14-year-old. >> wouldn't that be an important thing to know? i'm not getting -- i understand the alienation, said that myself. i understand the anger that the families dissolve and they don't have a dad and i would be angry too if that were my situation. >> there are a lot of families whose families dissolved. >> who have made it and not done it. >> organizations that have done things like the 100 black men who opened schools for young men in those high crime areas. >> there are always organizations that try to help. >> he will with, because it was said earlier that where are the black leaders? black leaders are on on ofront line deal with this waiting for help. >> they're the anonymous