find them. >> the democrats will be able to assume those votes against hillary clinton, to name somebody? >> that's what i'm saying. the democrats probably think they can assume 242 electoral votes. christie says i can flip blue states. who else in this room, he will say when they have a gathering of the candidates, can flip a state as i have just done in new jersey. >> and his weakness? >> his weakness is his success in doing this because some people are going to say if you carry a blue state, you must be suspect. so the strength becomes a weakness in the perversity of modern republican arguments. >> let's look at that. immigration reform, comprehensive immigration reform for a dream act in state. gun control he's against obamacare but expanded medicaid. how big problems are they for the tea party wing of the party? >> i think they are negotiable problems.