problem in this country. people are dying of diabetes. >> and we have an alcoholism problem too, charles. >> hold up. >> i want to go back to there's going to be more government pressure to outlaw things that are bad for us to keep us skinny as the government foots the bill for more of our health care in this nation. you've seen it in new york city with mayor mike bloomberg, and you will see it more and more -- >> we'll have more on that. charles, can i ask you this? i'm just wondering, we have seen a slight decline in the obesity rate in this country. i'm doing what i can to hold it up. but i wonder if the ones who are arguing for this can argue back, see, it's working. michelle obama. it's working. >> i think we were seeing that before, just like cigarettes and other things. you brought up how many people know about transfats. and charlie mentioned in the last 50 years, people know about these things. i don't think anyone goes to mcdonald's and thinks it's good for you. >> wait. it's not? >> here's the thing, though. i do want to say, you know, i