>> did he send cops over? >> yes. going through harleys. yes. >> dirt bikes we rode i mean, i never experienced anything likethat. growing up. >> do you know what is interesting, dr. dobson you've been in this fight a long time. i've been criticized for my positions over the years. lauren you've taken hits over the years. >> yes. >> it's amazing that all that you watch society decline. the message that he is saying would help society reverse the decline in many ways. but you can't talk about things he talked about 30 years ago. >> yet he has not changed that message one wit. i mean, he started out with a biblical message. a message not only of the need for relationship with christ, but forgiveness. he emphasized forgiveness. if you have really messed up, you can