taxes when they didn't cut? there's never been entitlement reform. it's a one-way street all the time. >> nancy pelosi said this, that revenue needs to be on the table in relation to discussions to soften the sequester cuts. >> of course. >> so the democrats are trying to soften those automatic spending cuts, and at the same time raise taxes. they don't cut spending as much and raise taxes. it's crazy. >> the last time we had a serious consideration of entitlement reform was simpson-bowles. and president obama turned the other way. >> adam talked about a business analogy. a business doesn't say we're going to spend $2 million this year, and then we'll figure out what we'll take in. first you figure out how much you're going to take in, and then you figure out how much you're going to spend. we do it the opposite way. there is a limit to taxing. when people talk about 90%, that affected like two people. we're talking about people