based exchanges that are functioning and facilitating enrollment and start leveraging some of that expertise and seeing what they are doing different versus healthcare.gov. >> the situation is unique here in utah and perhaps there are lessons to be learned. the individual marketplace here is run by the federal government while the small business marketplace is run by the state. why are the feds having problems that the state are not? we spoke to dan skier the former director of technology for utah's health exchange. >> so in utah we have avenue h which is the small group exchange that was built and developed by the state of utah in 2009, it's stargted at small groups of 50. to do the enrollment. facilitated marketplace. as many of you have seen and heard in the news there have been some technology glitches on the individual