dictionary, it's termed as offensive. i think it is offensive. the fact that a lot of people don't find it offensive probably has to do with the fact that they probably don't know exactly what it means. >> it's about 90% don't. >> so that's an argument certainly in the favor of the redskins owners, but the fact that our dictionaries referred to this as an offensive term that none of us would use, none of us would ever refer to an american indian in this way. >> president obama weighed in and agreed with you, kirsten and said he would change it. charles? >> i'm not able to achieve high -- like costas, i'm in a low dungeon over this, i think this is not something that is sort of a matter of principal. and i respect the snyder position. i don't think there's any intent of malice. there's no intent of a slur and there is 80 years of history. but words have histories of their own and they evolve. the word negro 50 years ago was